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Undo, Redo, Transactions, ORM, Monads, Python

From: "andrew cooke" <andrew@...>

Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 15:00:32 -0400 (CLT)

Background

I am working on a program that (in my dreams at least) will have a
graphical interface with Undo/Redo.  This (undo/redo support) seems to me
like the kind of thing that should be "almost free" providing you go about
things in the right way.  In other words, a program with it should be
pretty much equivalent to one without (in functionality, speed and time to
development).  All that should be necessary is the correct concepts and a
structure that reflects them.


Actions

The obvious (to me at least) structure is to introduce "actions" which are
objects that embody certain actions (that change the system state).  So
far, no different from any chunk of code.  The additional twist is that an
action also generates its inverse when invoked.  From that (and also more
generally, from the idea that these are abstractions) an actin has to be
isolated and somehow "run".

In Python the natural way to express "running" an object is via the
__call__() method (which gives you an object that looks like a function).

Some thought also needs to be given to how program state is managed.  What
do actions act on?  This could be completely unstructured, but then undo
actions would need to be very careful to preserve all the necessary
references so that they can do their work when invoked later.  That in
turn implies closures that might entail odd storage requirements (remember
that an undo can itself be undone, so you need to store "everything", and
Python doesn't have continuations - not that we would use them here,
because we are using a database as the model, but that comes later...).

So it seems prudent (I don't have a more convincing argument than the
above) to have an additional abstraction which is the interface to state
in the system.  I call this "context" because it provides the context for
invocation of the action (unfortunately I also call the thing associated
with "with statements" context, which leads to confusion in my code - I
need a better name for the with statement context).

It follows that actions look something like __call(context)__.  In that
case, they would return an undo.  In fact, it's more convenient to have
them return a value that will be useful in a more general sense (ie as
part of the usual business of programming stuff - see monads below).  So
instead, undo actions can be either appended to the context, or specified
separately.  I went with separate, so the interface is __call(context,
undo)__.

In the above, context provides methods that change the system state and
undo is something that accepts an action.  So a typical action looks like:

class MyAction(object):

  def __init__(self, args):
    self.args = args

  def __call__(self, context, undo):
    context.do_stuff(self.args)
    undo.append(Opposite(args))

So far so good.  Obviously, the application also has a method that these
are submitted to, and which calls the action with the context, manages
undo, etc (in my case, the application code does not manage undo - that is
handled by the separate GUI; in the GUI MVC context the application is the
model).

Thinking about what I just wrote, I guess it might be better to have the
application, then a wrapper that provides undo/redo, and then the GUI
around that.  That would remove the code I currently have that bounces
redo/undo back and forth between the application and the core.


Monads / Collections

Next we need to worry about how we write code in a natural way and what
the granularity of actions should be.  We will want to probably want to
write some basic actions which are quite "low level" and then have a way
of composing these into more complex actions.  And we would like this to
be possible in a nested way (of course).

The natural solution here is to have an action that is composed of smaller
actions.  When invoked it, in turn, invokes the actions it contains.  This
naturally allows nesting.

At the same time, we want to write code in a way that uses the results of
actions, even while they are being composed.  This is not as easy as it
first appears, because we do not have a result until the action is
evaluated, which occurs at a later time than the execution of the code
constructing the action (I am not sure how this changes depending on
whether the language is lazy or not, but Python is eager).

Because of this I adapted the "monad" syntax I described in an earlier
post.  Each action returns a single value (it may be a tuple or list, but
the initial binding syntax for the monad is single assignment - later
statements may unpack values).

So, for example, AddFoo() may be an action that creates a new Foo in the
database.  It might return the equivalent ORM instance, or the key
(instance is more useful externally, but the key is more useful internally
as it allows the inverse (undo) to be constructed with less assumptions
about what the ORM does with deleted objects - consider re-adding a
deleted value).  Then if UseFoo uses the instance we might have:

  m = ActionCollection()
  m.the_foo = AddFoo(foo details)
  m < UsefFoo(m.the_foo)

where it so happens that UseFoo returns no useful value (hence "<").


Irreversible Change

Not all actions will have an inverse.  For example, deleting a database. 
These are the "are you sure?" actions.  Such actions effectively delete
the existing undo stack, so the mechanism for accumulating undo actions
must be aware of these (for example, the undo value may be a special token
that the accumulator mechanism will detect).

This might suggest that such actions should themselves be responsible for
prompting the user, so that if they are "buried" in a composite action the
prompt still occurs, even if the GUI was "unaware" that a dangerous action
was being invoked.

However, there is a second consideration here - the user experience. 
While we as programmers may happily compose actions, the GUI must
associate a single undo action with a single GUI interaction.  At one
level this is feasible - a composite action creates a composite undo.  But
at another level it is not - what happens to the undos that are generated
*after* an irreversible action?  Either we present "undo half the action"
to the GUI layer, or we discard the undos.

Alternatively, we could prohibit irreversible actions from being grouped. 
This would force them to be submitted singly and so make them obvious to
the GUI layer (and the user) (it might still make sense to have a single
point for asking the user to confirm - this might be the same undo layer
posited earlier, between GUI and application core).

To enforce this, irreversible actions must look different.  In an untyped
language like Python this is not easy.  Perhaps the safest approach is to
also make such actions throw an exception if passed an undo accumulator. 
Again this makes most sense if the logic is handled at the intermediate
undo layer (note that the exception is thrown before the action occurs, so
any previous step can still be undone).  Or perhaps this is overkill?


Database

I mentioned above the idea that we can undo the already-completed part of
a composite action if we have to abort the action half-way through. 
However, is at least one case in which this is not necessary.

The application I am writing is, essentially, a front-end to a database. 
All the application actions are intended to modify the database (it's an
application to explicitly manage a database).  So there is an alternative
approach to undo, which is to use database transactions.

The reason I do not use this alone is that (as far as I know), they are
"single shot".  There is no way to have successive undos in a normal
database (there are databases that allow versioned histories - essentially
functional data structures - but I have to use MySQL (which isn't fit to
be called a database at times, but I digress...).  So I need some more
general mechanism for managing a whole series of undos, but for a single
composite action (ie implementing undo at the level of an action perceived
by the user via the GUI) it may be safer to use the database undo.

The trade-off is unclear (ie the correct choice is unclear).

Andrew

Extra Thoughts

From: "andrew cooke" <andrew@...>

Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 15:07:47 -0400 (CLT)

Reading what I just posted, a couple of extra comments:

- I forgot to mention ORM.  The main issue is the degree of integration
between ORM and transactions.  I believe SQL Alchemy is OK in this regard
(I am very impressed with SQL Alchemy).

- It may seem odd that you can undo and then redo something which included
generated values:

  m = ActionCollection()
  m.the_foo = AddFoo(foo details)
  m < UsefFoo(m.the_foo)

That will only work in general if (1) IDs are consistent (so undoing
reverses the database counter) and (2) the ORM caches singletons
correctly.

(2) seems very unlikely to me, although I haven't investigated it.  (1)
seems like a safer bet, but you remember cannot rely on transactions -
undo must really undo!

It might be simplest to avoid such things completely and instead use the
natural keys that exist in the data.

Andrew

Yet More (Entropy?!)

From: "andrew cooke" <andrew@...>

Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 16:12:30 -0400 (CLT)

An alternative approach that avoids some of the issues with undoing
composite actions may be avoided if the composite actions themselves
remain to be redone.  Then undo is only a localized issue (within a
particular composite context), while redo retains the original context
(reconstructed as before).

This implies that the collection of actions at the top level (which can be
stepped through, back and forth, with undo and redo, is not like lower
level collections.

In other words, composite actions effectively return themselves after
undoing twice (ie undo(undo(x)) is x).

This seems to imply an asymmetry between (re)do and undo (doing requires
links between actions implemented via the monad-scoped variables, which
implies a certain "long range" transmission of information not necessary
in undo).  I guess this reflects the natural construction of structure /
information, but it seems slightly odd to see such a physical effect in
these abstract surroundings.

Andrew

Clarification

From: "andrew cooke" <andrew@...>

Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 18:14:22 -0400 (CLT)

The above may be clear to no-one except myself, and even then I have my
doubts.  The problem can be understood by working forwards, then backwards
then forwards again through the code I gave:

  m = ActionCollection()
  m.the_foo = AddFoo(foo details)
  m < UsefFoo(m.the_foo)

The first time through this code, "the_foo" is bound to something, that
probably depends on the database.

The Inverse for AddFoo is generated at this point, storing that
information.  Same for the inverse of UseFoo.

Running backwards (for undo), each action's inverse can run separately. 
There's no equivalent of the tying between two actions made by "the_foo"
because all that information in a sense "already exists".  It seems odd
that there is no need for something equivalent going backwards - hence my
comment about entropy.

OK, so now imagine going forwards again with a "redo".

The problem I was seeing is that if we treat each action in an isolated
way then there's no "the_foo" the second time round.  Instead there's
simply a AddFoo generated from its inverse (during the undo) and a UseFoo
generated from its inverse, but not structure to tie them together.  So I
was assuming that the inverse of the inverse of the UseFoo would have the
value of "the_foo" stored internally - a memory passed down the chain of
inverses.

Is that really any clearer?

And the solution is to instead save the container somehow.

So on undo the container runs each undo individually.

But on redo the container re-runs from scratch.  Then "the_foo" make take
on a logically equivalent value, but it may not be identical (if, say, the
undo doesn't reset the database autoincrement counters).

Andrew

And I am typing all this using a KeyTronics keyboard - UK layout - from
the 1990s.  It came with a good quality machine I bought way back.  I just
took it apart and cleaned it, and am using it again.  It's soooo much
better than anything I've had since (I always bought cheap
replacements...).  It's so clicky!  Unfortunately it's cream and rather
old-fashioned.  Perhaps so old-fashioned it's cool again?  And after
getting used to US (laptop) and Spanish (home server) keyboards, the UK
layout is annoying....  Still, I do have £ signs (that's a pound - no idea
how it will display on the blog).

Not Monads!

From: andrew cooke <andrew@...>

Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 19:30:51 -0400

I just wanted to note that the above really has very little to do with Monads
in any serious, well defined sense.

I considered deleting the article, but I am against such things on principle
and anyway, the general thoughts about deletion are something I may need in
the future.

Andrew

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BOUML - A UML Tool with Reverse Engineering; Fixing IntelliJ Idea 9 EAP on 64 bit Linux (Could not find agent library); Empire DB Example with Scala; Free Scala Book (Programming Scala); Attack on MD5 Based Authentication for Popular Sites; Text of AP "Writethru" on Polanski; Revised Instructions for Adding Dependencies; Interview; More on Scala; Scala in More Detail; Trying Again (New Instructions); Scala Bug Report; Starting a Scala Project; Testing Pollsters - 538 v Strategic Vision; Measuring Complexity; Books to Read (Best of Decade, Millennium); GRRF - The Last Lecture; Java / Scala Bindings to OpenCL; John Abercrombie Organ Trio, Santiago, 24 September 2009; As Rigid as Possible Shape Interpolation; The Poor (well, Over-Extended) Middle Class; Quantum Computer Factors 15; Diesel Asynchronous Network Apps in Python (uses Coroutines); Django Template Tips; Starting a Linux Computer Remotely (WOL / PME); Causality - Inferring Causal Networks; Algorithmic Game Theory (Free Book); Running "find" in Parallel; Network Protocol Description Language; PyOpenCL - Python Layer to OpenCL GPU Programming; Would You Work With These People?; New Johnston Sans Typeface (the Underground); Delayed due to State; How Stupid is eBay?; String Theory is Just a Technique for Summing Terms in QCD; One More Reference; Iranian Gold and Cash (nearly $20bn) in Turkey?; Noop (no-op) - New JVM Language from Google; More Offside Documentation; Rethinking The Firm; Renault Told Piquet's Son to Crash; Hardware Hacking - Pictures from Space; Replies Work Too?; Moving to WebFaction; La Nana (Chilean Film); What's so Neat...; Offside Parsing Works in LEPL; How a Construction Crane is Made (Builds Itself); More Al-Qaida Details; And the X1; Leica M9 (Full Frame); Dark Stalking on Facebook - Tracking Invisible Identities; Al-Qaida Faces Recruitment Crisis; NSA Intercepted Emails used in UK Liquid Bomb Trial; A Review; Extended Bash Shell (Including ASCII Plots); RSS Cloud - Putting the Push in RSS?; Mercury Prize Nominees; Raphael - Javascript Library for Graphics; Domain Specific Language Conference (Papers etc); Rhonda 3D Drawing Program (+ Video); PyDev 1.5.0 now All-Free; Page Rank Gives Critical Nodes - Extinctions; Designing Crypto is Hard (Schneier - Don't Use AC); Yike Electric, Foldable Bike (Exists?!); Faster with Overvoltage; Negative Interest Rates in Sweden; Overclocking Q9550 with Asus P5Q; H1N1 Virus DNA and DIY BioTerrorism; GF1 Preview; Panasonic GF1 - Grown up LX3; Tweeting from the Linux Command Line; Cheap, Simple, Massive Storage; Thanks for this; Coders at Work (Book); Netflix Culture; More Indentation; Representing Indentations for Parsing; More Quads; Hidden Cost of Coroutines?; Interview with Amartya Sen; Article on Coroutines, Python, State Machines; Amazon, Clouds, etc; Pylint and Python 2.6; P / NP Summary; Depression's Evolutionary Roots; Economist Review; Intel Quad Core Prices; Scotland needs no lessons in matters of fairness from a country that has been routinely waterboarding suspects in Guantanamo Bay; Free Book on MetaHeuristics; Scheme to split in two; Hopelessly Naive; Stalin Had Similar Ideas; Sean Smith; Life is Good; Afghanistan - Reportage / Photos in Guardian; Pictures for Sad Children - Airshow; Also, Lombok; Mixins For Java; Rules For Use; Automatic Banknote Detection; Using Computers to Help Scheme Against Paying for Bhopal; Distributed Teams Build More Modular Products; Schumacher > Anonymous Pro; Anonymous Pro - Better than Schumacher?!; Amplifiers + Computing Theory Blog; Proven OS Kernel; Mail Based Blog + Gmail; Generating Pie Charts in SQL; More Analysis on the VMWare/Spring Deal; CPU/GPU Unification; VMWare buy SpringSource!; Hardware Entropy Source (USB!); Better Wave Analysis; Older, Happier, Wiser; Analysis (Negative) of Google's Wave; More Info On Concepts; Panasoni'c Micro 4/3 (MFT); Drug Company Ghost-Writes Papers; Linux Disk Config; Blue LEDs on PeeCee07A (PC2500e); Gregory Thielker; Language Workbenches?; Random Art + Cryptography; Initial Impressions - Via C7-D Barebones with Opensuse; Amitai Etzioni; Why are people with "tone-deafness" bad dancers?; DLink DUB-E100, Opensuse; Named Tuples in Python (and some Cairo contexts); Stroustrup's Take; C++ Concepts Dropped; Moved to GMail; Mail-based Blog; System Re-factoring; Enabling speaker beep as KDE notification; UK Police Arrange for Suspect (in UK) to be Tortured (Abroad); Extended to 3D; The Soft Heap: An Approximate Priority Queue with Optimal Error Rate; Godel Prize; Original paper; Facebook / MySpace Social Divide; Only Early Kernels; Cygwin SSH Server on Windows 7 RC; Using a Directory (Package) for Django's Model; Compiling pgplot on opensuse 11.1; Comparison of Dual Core E4700 and E6400; Erik Naggum Dead; Oracle on OpenSuse/Linux; Yup; Olympus Pen EP-1 (Micro 4/3) Details; More Iranian Analysis; Improving Nicotine's Response; Neo4j - a Graph Database; MISC - Lazy Lisp with Maps; Nortec Collective - New Album; The Sorry State of UK Politics; Two Contrary Views on Iran; Some Rape Stats Background; More Overvoltage Results; New Mobo; Caring About Programming Languages; Reflections on First Consultancy Gig; Google Squared; Windows 7 on VirtualBox; Smart File Visualisation; Boomerang - Lenses for Text; Datalog Jobs; RT61 Notes; Remote X for Single Programs; Sorting Morphisms; Computers and Intractability; Although Rather Drinkable; Bugger Carmen and their Grande Vidure; A Bomb Won't Go Off Here; 50 Ways to Change Minds; Sector/Sphere - Distributed Computing on Widespread, Heterogenous Networks; Linux-based Cracker Tools; Dear Esther (Half Life 2 Mod); MySQL Forks; Factor of 2 (Northbridge Explanation v2); A Beginners Guide to Forcing; Tiny STM; Erlang Influence?; CUDA Course; Protocol Support; Axum - New Concurrent Language from MS; Not Quite; 92% Faster; 92% Faster; Overclocking E6400 by 60%; Eight stories on Obama [...] censored from the Guardian, Observer, Telegraph and New Statesman; Trying to Explain why Mercurial is Good; Mandriva; With Eclipse; Add wwwrun to hg group; Writing to Mercurial; Renewing Chilean Visa; Interactive Mode in PEvolve; Using Mercurial on OpenSuse 11.1; Logitech Duet Love; Clarification from Anandtech; Initial Tokenizer Results for LEPL; Dead from beating?; New Edition of Parsing Techniques; The police: Unaccountable, secretive and out of control; Same Guy; 2.3 Released; Another Thought; Caveats; Compiling Recursive Descent to Regular Expressions; Compiling Recursive Descent to Regular Expressions; Much Better via Co-Routines; Much Better via Co-Routines; Much Better via Co-Routines; Much Better via Co-Routines; Peyton Jones - Implementation of Functional Programming Languages; Great Moments in Logic; The Quiet Coup; Logging Slow Queries in MySQL; Dabo - Desktop Application Framework (Python); Epsilon!; Original NFA; Initial DFA Results; Squeezenter on OpenSuse / Linux - Couldn't create command line for ogg playback; Legalising Polygamy in Utah. Ha ha ha.; Implementing a Regular Expression Engine; New Server Configuration; Converting NFA to DFA; Converting NFA to DFA; Converting NFA to DFA; And...; Browser Ball; Auto-layout of Graph Components; Good Article on Poverty in the UK; Does Make Sense; Possibly Complete; Incomplete; PyPy Getting Somewhere?; Corrected Test; I Just Wrote a Regular Exression Engine!; Freaking Awesome YouTube Mixes; Charles Freeman (National Intelligence Council nominee) Statement; 40-fold Speedup in LEPL Parsing; Cities of Bronze and Glass; Cities of Bronze and Glass; Modify Audio with Python; LEPL 2.0 Released; Protocol for copying updated files; Simple LLVM Example - Lisp; MCL - Relatively New Clustering Algorithm?; Fascism now back in Italy?; Declarative (Auckland) GUI Layout; Cybersyn; History of Twentieth-Century Philosophy of Science; Nice Short Summary of Ant v Maven; Yes but no; Sensible Statistics for LHC Risk (Bad News); Simpler Version of Above; Current Economy in Perspective; SSDs Suffer from Fragmentation Issues; LEPL Roadplan; Finally, Clean Main Loop; Simplified Code; Correction on Python Stack; Trampolining Code; Clearer; More on Co-Routines; Transparency Key; Handling Yield; Join The Discussion (Really!); Join the Discussion!; Avoiding the Python Stack; Positive Report on Venezuelan Economy; Papers on Handling Left Recursion in Top-Down Parsers; Works now; Transparent Python Proxy Object for Circular References; Python 3 Instance Attributes as Methods; Alternative Representation; Simple Tree Rewriting; Python Code for ASCII Trees; Natural Language Processing in Python; More Madoff; Recursive Descent Parser; Bria Di Novi; Update; Google Alerts (and LEPL, and setuptools for Python 3); Low Latency(?) Kernel for OpenSuse 11.1; Later; Strange Moderation at BB; Max Richter, Prefix, OpenSuse 11.1; Overview of Python Packaging Tools; Error Handling in Recursive Descent Parsers with Backtracking; A Thought On Obama's Inauguration; The Book; So, the King Of Thailand...; "in" as Operator; Happiness...; Python's Operators; Python 3 in OpenSuse 11.1 and Eclipse; Information on Universe's Event Horizon...; Re: OFF; OFF; TiddlyWiki on Tahoe; Tahoe Least Authority Filesystem / AllMyData.org; More wxPython and OGL; With Bactracking; Syntax; Parsing Credits; New Parser in Python; Food in San Francisco; Updated PPOE Script, Extra Tricks for WebMail; Some Notes on OGL with wxPython; Suspend Broken; Bomb, bomb, bomb...; OpenSuse 11.1 on Lenovo/IBM Thinkpad X60; More Ideas; Gaza; Slice Mechanics; Stupid; Since when did Last.fm start to suck so much?; Rethinking Parsing; Radio David Byrne; Pick of the picks (Guardian photographers) + Internet; Problems with OSX (Apple Mac); Script to convert WMA to MP3 on Linux; Command line player for listening to SqueezeCentre on Linux; Basic HTTP Authentication with XMLRPC in Python; Gaza; Tweaking Beagle and KDE; More on Marcela Moncada; Marcela Moncada at the CCU, Santiago; Schrodinger Book Review; Natanz, not Naratz; Snobol Like Matching in Python; Woman Living in Jeddah; Simple Physics Using Verlet Integration; Updated Raid Data Scrubbing Link; Predictably Irrational; Nuclear Enrichment Technology; Recent DnB; Script to Fix MP3 Directories; Young people and territoriality in British cities; Projections; Cube - Series of Images for Laser Printer; This project died soon after...; And even if you won, you lose :o); Madoff as a Jew; Beagle, Computing in Science and Engineering; Fundacion Rodelillo; Use Logitech Squeeze (Slim Devices); Separate DAC for Headphones; SqueezeCenter/SqueezeNetwork; SqueezeCenter gets better!; Logitech Squeezebox Boom on OpenSuse; Krugman - Absolutely Right; Early Investigation into Madoff; Script to Check for dsl0; Another Positive Assessment of Chile's Position; Slowly making more sense; PPOE on OpenSuse; Quantum Bees; EmpireDB - SQLAlchemy for Java?; Bowery Electric; Zimbra (Messaging and Collaboration); Bolano + Sebald; Santander Security; BCI Customer Service (Chilean Bank); Good Intro to PyParsing; Two Essays on Bolano; Financial Regulation; Chilean Liquidity Crisis, November 2008; Batter Control via SMAPI; Not So Fast; Font Size; Extending Battery Life on X60 (OpenSuse, powertop); Dario Urzua 1780, Providencia, Santiago; When Agile Projects go Bad; Practical Comments about DSLs; Books I Should Read; Monster Truck Video; MicroFinance in Chile; Chilean Companies to Avoid; On the Other Hand; Background on Hedge Funds; Paper in Compression; Quantitative Easing for Dummies; Balada del Elefante Azul; Mass and Renormalization; Why CitiGroup is About to Be Bailed Out and Not General Motors; Joost in Decline?; Excellent; Thinking About Databases, Efficiency and Technology; Decent Summary of Citibank; Looking Good, Chile; BNP Membership List; Etherpad; NOAO DPP Changes; Correlations; Fast Is Not Necesarily Bad; about the article; Triggerfish Cellphone Locating; Actually, no...; CDSs a Good Thing?; Chavez airs wiretaps of political rivals; iBATIS Caching; Are Chilean Bus Stations Safe?; Microsoft OSLO (DSL Framework); Decline + Fall of Agile; Plop / MOSES; Food; Declarative Validation of XMLRPC Responses in Python; More on Moodys etc; Social Terrorists; Declarative Mini-Languages in Python; Learn Prolog Now; How Palin was Picked; Newer Bus Info; More Bus Notes; Bus Travel from Santiago, Chile; Some decent Chilean (and Mexican) Music; More Info on IBatis-Based Project; Nice Plot from FT showing Spreads; SAX XMLFilter Example; Hitchens on McCain + Palin; Short Position on BBVA and Santander; Relatively Positive Article from Economist; It Works!; Not Even with Latest Version; Nope; Fixing Java Profiling in Eclipse (TPTP) on Linux (opensuse); Perhaps Not; New, Good Book by Le Carre?; Possible Future Financial Scenario; No Idea!; Session Limitation with Acegi blog post; Patriotic Taxes; Using Packrat Parsing for Ruby

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